Evo malo ekskluzive (bar ja nisam video da je neko negde ovo objavio).
Doduse od juce je bilo jasno, ali tak sada sam provalio.
Gledajuci ko su jos preostali timovi u zavrsnici LE i LS, a to su:
LE:
- Wolverhampton : Sevilla
- Manchester United : Copenhagen;
- Inter : Bayer Leverkusen; i
- Shaktar : Basel.
LS:
- RB Leipzig : Atl. Madrid;
- Atalanta : PSG;
- Manchester City : Lyon; i
- Barcelona/Napoli : Chelsea/Bayern Munich.
i citajuci propozicije za LS gde pise u
Article 3 (ko bi sve ucestvovao u LS i kakve su sve kombinacije ukoliko koji tim bi osvojio LE/LS)
Article 3 Entries for the competition
3.01
UEFA member associations (hereinafter associations) may enter a certain number of clubs for the competition through their top domestic championship, in accordance with the association coefficient rankings, drawn up in accordance with
Annex D. No more than four clubs may qualify for the competition through each domestic championship. These rankings also determine the associations’ positions in the access list (
Annex A), which in turn determines the stage at which each club enters the competition.
3.02
Associations are represented on the following basis:
- one representative: winner of the top domestic championship;
- two representatives: winner and runner-up of the top domestic championship;
- three representatives: winner, runner-up and third-placed club in the top domestic championship;
- four representatives: winner, runner-up, third- and fourth-placed clubs in the top domestic championship.
3.03
The UEFA Champions League and UEFA Europa League titleholders are guaranteed a place in the group stage even if they do not qualify for the competition through their domestic championships. If the UEFA Champions League or UEFA Europa League titleholder qualifies for the UEFA Europa League through one of its domestic competitions, the number of places to which its association is entitled in the UEFA Europa League is decreased by one.
3.04
If the UEFA Champions League or UEFA Europa League titleholder qualifies for the group stage of the competition through its domestic championship the vacancy created in the group stage is filled as follows:
- A vacancy created by the UEFA Champions League titleholder is filled by the domestic champion of the association ranked 11th in the access list and the champions path is rebalanced accordingly with priority given to the club of the best ranked association of the respective round in the access list (see Annex A);
- A vacancy created by the UEFA Europa League titleholder is filled by the third-placed club of the association ranked fifth in the access list and the league path is rebalanced accordingly with priority given to the club of the best ranked association of the respective round in the access list (see Annex A).
UEFA reserves the right to adapt the re-balancing in accordance with the principles outlined under points a) and b) above in case the 2019/20 UEFA Champions League and the 2019/20 UEFA Europa League are not finished before the competition starts. The adapted re-balancing will ensure that the competition rounds of the qualifying phase that have already been drawn or played at the moment the titleholders are determined will not be impacted.
3.05
If the UEFA Champions League or UEFA Europa League titleholder qualifies to the qualifying phase or play-offs of the competition, the respective qualifying rounds or play-offs are rebalanced accordingly with priority given to the club of the best ranked association of the respective round in the access list (see
Annex A) and in accordance with
Paragraph 3.04.
3.06
Exceptionally, an association may be represented by five clubs in the competition if the UEFA Champions League and/or UEFA Europa League titleholder does not also qualify through its domestic championship.
3.07
If the UEFA Champions League titleholder and the UEFA Europa League titleholder come from the same association and do not qualify for the competition through their domestic championship, one of the following scenarios applies:
- If the association is entitled to four places in the competition and both titleholders qualify for the UEFA Europa League through their domestic championship, the lowest-placed of the association’s UEFA Champions League representatives is automatically transferred to the UEFA Europa League (into the UEFA Europa League group stage where a vacancy is created). In this case, the association of the titleholders is entitled to one additional place (total of five) in the UEFA Champions League, but the combined number of places to which it is entitled in the two competitions does not change.
- If the association is entitled to four places in the competition and only one titleholder qualifies for the UEFA Europa League through its domestic championship, the lowest-placed of the association’s UEFA Champions League representatives is automatically transferred to the UEFA Europa League (into the UEFA Europa League group stage and the access list will be rebalanced accordingly). In this case, the association of the titleholders is entitled to one additional place (total of five) in the UEFA Champions League, but the number of places to which it is entitled in the UEFA Europa League does not change.
- If the association is entitled to four places in the UEFA Champions League and neither titleholder qualifies for the UEFA Europa League through its domestic championship, the lowest-placed of the association’s UEFA Champions League representatives is automatically transferred to the UEFA Europa League (into the UEFA Europa League group stage and the access list will be rebalanced accordingly). In this case, the association of the titleholders is entitled to one additional place (total of five) in the UEFA Champions League and one additional place (total of four) in the UEFA Europa League.
- If the association is entitled to fewer than four places in the UEFA Champions League and both titleholders qualify for the UEFA Europa League through their domestic championship, they are entitled to play in the UEFA Champions League in addition to the association’s other UEFA Champions League representative(s). In this case, the combined number of places to which the association of the titleholders is entitled in the two competitions does not change.
- If the association is entitled to fewer than four places in the UEFA Champions League and one titleholder qualifies for the UEFA Europa League through its domestic championship, both are entitled to play in the UEFA Champions League in addition to the association’s other UEFA Champions League representative(s). In this case, the combined number of places to which the association of the titleholders is entitled in the two competitions is increased by one.
- If the association is entitled to fewer than four places in the UEFA Champions League and neither titleholder qualifies for the UEFA Europa League through its domestic championship, both are entitled to play in the UEFA Champions League in addition to the association’s other UEFA Champions League representative(s). In this case, the combined number of places to which the association of the titleholders is entitled in the two competitions is increased by two.
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Dodje se do zakljucka da smo mi definitivno nosioci u svim fazama takmicenja, cak i u plej-offu!
Tacnije, izbegnute su sve potencijalne "mine" da nas ugroze, sada sve od nas zavisi.
A evo i objasnjenja:
Za pocetak da kazem da smo mi zvanicno "drugi iznad crte" u plej-ofu, a potencijalne mine su (bile) Besiktas i Viktorija Plzenj, ali sa novonastalom situacijom mi smo izbegli njih. Sledi detaljno objasnjenje.
1. Ishod u LE:
- Ukoliko LE osvoji jedan od timova koji su obezbedili direktan plasman u LS putem domaceg prvenstva, a to su: Manchester United, Shaktar, Sevilla i Inter, u tom slucaju Besiktas (nasa potencijalna mina iz 2. kola kvalifikacije za LS iz tzv "nesampionskog dela") i AZ ce poceti svoju evropsku odiseju iz 3. kola kvalifikacija za LS, a ako tamo ispadnu plasirace se direktno u grupnoj fazi LE (pogledajte kakav je bio slucaj prosle
https://kassiesa.net/uefa/AccessList2019.html) ;
Epilog ove situacije: Drugi smo iznad crte, a ta jedna preostala "mina" iz kvalifikacija za LS (Viktorija) ne moze nam nista.
- Ukoliko LE osvoji Bayer Leverkusen*, koji je vec obezbedio direktan plasman u LE putem domaceg prvenstva, u tom slucaju osvajac kupa (Cup winner - CW) iz 13. plasirane zemlje sa nacionalnim koeficientom plasirace se direktno u grupnoj fazi LE i "nestace" sa naseg dela kvalifikacija. 13 zemlja na UEFinoj rang listi je Ceska
https://kassiesa.net/uefa/AccessList2020.html, a CW iz te zemlje je Sparta Prag (jaci koeficient od naseg).
Epilog ove situacije: Treci smo iznad crte, a te dve "mine" iz kvalifikacija za LS ne mogu da nas spuste ispod crte.
- Ukoliko LE osvoje Basel ili Copenhagen, timovi koji su obezbedili nastup "samo" u kvalifikacijama za LE (pocinju od 2. kolo), ukoliko osvoje LE (ako jedan od ova dva tima osvoji LE) "nestali" sa spisak ovog naseg dela kvalifikacija, a imajuci u vidu da oba kluba imaju jaci koeficient od naseg popeli bi sevpopeli za jedno mesto na tabeli u nosiocima za plej-off za LE!
Epilog ove situacije: Treci smo iznad crte, a te dve "mine" iz kvalifikacija za LS ne mogu da nas spuste ispod crte.
- Ukoliko Wolverhampton osvoji LE (tim koji nije uspeo ni da obezbedi sebi mesto ni u kvalifikacijama za LE putem Premier lige), u tom slucaju stupa na snagu clan (article) 3.1 iz ovo gore sto sam citirao, znaci u tom slucaju Wolves zajedno sa Liverpulom, Manchester United i Manchester City bi se plasirali u LS direktno, Chelsea i Arsenal bi igrali u LE, a Lester (koji ima slabiji koeficient od naseg) bi igrao u kvalifikacijama za LE, a klub koji (za sada) drzi poziciju koja vodi u kvalifikacijama za LE Tothanham (jaci koeficient od naseg) bi ispao, tacnije ne bi igrao kvalifikacije za LE i mi bi se sa tim popeli za jedno mesto gore na tabeli u nosiocima za plej-off za LE!
Epilog ove situacije: Treci smo iznad crte, a te dve "mine" iz kvalifikacija za LS ne mogu da nas spuste ispod crte.
2. Ishod u LS:
- Ukoliko LS osvoji jedan od ovih timova: RB Leipzig, Atl. Madrid, Atalanta, PSG, Manchester City, Barcelona, Chelsea ili Bayern Munich (klubovi koji su obezbedili plasman u LS putem domaceg prvenstva) za nas ama bas se nista znacajnije ne bi desilo. Od nekog znacaja bi bilo za ove sa druge strane brda, ali oni nisu vredni paznje.
- Ukoliko LS osvoje Lyon ili Napoli, isto je kao u slucaju sa Wolvse. Znaci ukoliko Napoli osvoji LS iz Italije direktno u LS bi igrali oni, Juventus, Inter i Atalanta; Lacio i Roma bi isli u LE, a Milan (manji koeficient od nas) bi igrao kvalifikacije za LE, znaci manje-vise sve je isto kao i do sada. Ukoliko Lyon osvoji LS, u tom slucaju iz Francuske u LS direktno bi isli oni i PSG, a Olimpik Marsej bi poceo od 3. kola kvalifikacija za LS (ako tamo ispadne igrao bi direktno u LE), Ren i Lil bi isli direktno u LE, a Nica (manji koeficient od naseg) igrala bi u kvalifikacijama za LE.
U sustini, za nas nista posebno ne znaci kakav ce ishod biti u zavrsnici LS, ovo sam napisao samo da bi ste videli da ovde ne postoji nikakva "opasnost" po naseg polozaja u zrebu.
Zakljucak nakon svega ovoga: Ne postoje vise nikakve prepreke da budemo nosioci u svim fazama kvalifikacija za LE!
Sada sve od nas zavisi, treba jos "samo" da se plasiramo u taj play-off!
Paradoksalno je sto ovo sve pisem, da smo definitivno nosioci i u plej-ofu za LE, dva dana nakon poraza u Novom Pazaru i tri dana pre zreba za
1. kolo kvalifikacija za LE...
Epa, neka nam je sa srecom!
P.S. *Nisam 100% siguran u ovo sto sam napisao za Bayer, nisam siguran dali bi Sparta isla direktno u LE, mada tako su pisali na mozzartu (doduse tekst je bio za Vojvodinu
https://www.mozzartsport.com/fudbal/vesti/vosa-dva-meca-od-lige-evrope-novi-sad-navija-za-sevilju-sahtjor-inter…/362157 ), a i lani je tako pisalo i na zvanicnom sajtu (mrzi me trazim) da ako LE osvoji tim koji je obezbedio sebi mesto u LE sledece sezone da CW iz 13. zemlje na UEFinoj rang listi ide direktno u LE (i tada je bila Ceska
https://kassiesa.net/uefa/AccessList2019.html tj Sparta u pitanju).
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